GROUP THREE: INTO THE WILD: Author's Note-89

12/10/2010

Your first blog post will replace your first quiz on Into the Wild. Please be aware that I will be grading your responses carefully and critically to make sure you have a complete understanding of the material. Answer each discussion question completely, using the text as evidence of your reading. Also, when replying to others, make sure you add new insights and elaborate on your responses!!!!

1. Why do you think Chris changed his name to Alex? What is he hoping for with this new identity? Reflect on these two questions and how transcendentalism plays a role in these decisions.

2. Chapter 4 ends with the following quote from McCandless’ journal: “It is the experiences, the memories, the great triumphant joy of living to the fullest extent in which real meaning is found” (37). Identify an experience from this chapter and explain what “meaning” you think Alex has found. Use a quote to support your explanation.

3. Before McCandless leaves for Alaska, Wayne Westerberg offers to buy him a plane ticket. McCandless refuses, however, claiming, “flying would be cheating. It would wreck the whole trip” (67). Find and explain two quotes from this chapter that demonstrate whether or not McCandless actually lives by his own words.

Each person in the group should and can use different quotes and explanations in the last two questions. No answer should be exactly alike; you may not agree with McCandless' views or decisions and that will be reflected in your responses!

67 Comments

Michael Turnbill

12/14/2010 08:43:43 am

Question 1.)

I feel that Chris McCandless switched his name to Alex so that he could start fresh with a new identity.
He felt that the name he held before held him to his past and he could be his own man with a new identity. This
plays a role in transcendentalism in as they believe that we find our true selves when we our out in nature. He
was tired of living like his parents wanted him to and wanted to be his own man and fend for himself, which comes
into play when he is offered help along the way by many people and turns them down feeling he is cheating if he doesn;t
do this on his own . He felt as a whole that this trip was to help him discover the true meaning of life.

Michael Turnbill

12/14/2010 08:44:53 am

On July 10th, Chris hiked around Lake Mead which he saw as a mistake. In July the temperature was delirious and he suffered from heat stroke.The longer he was out the happier he was as he enjoyed minor brushes with the law, the company of other vagabonds, and allowing his life to be shaped by circumstances. When he gets a ride from the Buress he said when he would talk to Chris about what he has been doing that "But real happy. Said he'd been surviving on edible plants he identified from the book.Like he was real proud of it." This quote showed the joy that Chris got out of his journey to Alaska.

Michael Turnbill

12/14/2010 08:45:45 am

Question 3.)

One example of Chris living by his own words and teachings is with denied any sexual pleasures as his main passion was Nature and his trip to Alaska. He circled in his book "Chasity, is the flowering of a man; and what are called Genius, Heroism, Holiness, and the like, are but various fruits which suceed it". This quote shows that Chris believed that nature was the only way to happiness and that other things were
just temporary happiness and couldn't compare to nature. Another example of Chris living by his own words is when he was working on the grain farm and he tried working the machinery as it went with transcendentilist who believed in always trying new things. Westerburg said " Alex hadn't been around machinery much" showing that even though he had never done it before he wasn't afraid to try something new.

Brook Herring

12/15/2010 07:57:29 am

Q 1

I think he changed his name because he wanted to be someone different and live in a life unlike his own. He goes to all these states with nothing but a backpack, and he meets all these people that fall in love with him along the way. When he finally arrives in Alaska, he barely has anything to survive on. I believe that he knows it'll be tough to survive, but he wants to live with what nature gives him.

Brook Herring

12/15/2010 08:16:00 am

Q 2

Alex lived on the streets with bums, tramps, and winos for several weeks. Even though he had hard times, he still kept going. He was determined to fulfill he journey to Alaska.

Curtis Seay

12/15/2010 08:25:23 am

Question 1

I believe that Chris change his name to Alex because he found the new him through nature. This new name gave an embarked his journey through the wild. He also changed his name to escape his parents, because he said they would stop to no ends to find him and unfortunately that would have ended his self voyage to find his soul purpose through nature. With this new identity he is in hope of finding a new self, one that is more in touch with nature who only needs what he can carry on his back. Chris showed his transcendentalism by searching for answers in nature and the ideas that began his quest.

Brook Herring

12/15/2010 08:54:35 am

Q 3

Westerberg said "Once Alex made up his mind about something, there was no changing it." That shows that Alex is very determined and won't stop at anything.

Brook

12/15/2010 09:05:40 am

Reply to Curtis Q 1

I agree with you because changing his name makes him feel different because he feels as if he isn't him, he's someone else. He also wanted it to be hard for his parents to find him. Also, he did want to feel more in touch with nature and live with what it gave him.

Brook

12/15/2010 09:11:38 am

Reply to Michael Q 2

He did see it as a mistake because of the extremely harsh weather. Chris had a hard time in Alaska. Others may think differently though because he was always so positive when he was asked questions.

Brook

12/15/2010 09:21:46 am

Reply to Michael Q 3

I agree because Chris loved nature and believed that nature was everything. He would rather be surrounded by nature than people. He did have a very hard time learning how to work the machine, but he never quit anything he started. He was very determined.

Curtis Seay

12/16/2010 01:06:28 am

Question 2

Alex found that true joy is found without material things and being in nature will give him true happiness. I say this because chapter 4 focused on him getting caught by immigration on the way back into the United States. Then he travels to Los Vegas where he takes a job at McDonald’s, where he buries his things outside the city. Where for a few weeks he lives on the street with the homeless until he hits the road again to the Grand Canyon where his quote leaves him full of joy for the life he is living.

Curtis Seay

12/16/2010 01:06:57 am

Question 3

Chris lived by his words in the journey to Alaska because he said in the beginning he would live out of his backpack and off of nature. Even though he was persuaded not to take this journey, he follows through and this tragically leads to his death. Also in the book he tries to teach those that living off the land is the way to go where he persuades some of the people he encounters on his travels to follow his transcendentalism methods.

Curtis Seay

12/16/2010 01:07:20 am

Question 1 reply to Michael

I agree with your answer that Chris was in search of becoming a new man. I also agree that he tried to find the answers to life through nature and wouldn’t allow his journey to be cut short from anyone including his parents.

Curtis Seay

12/16/2010 01:07:46 am

Question 2 reply to Brook

I believe that Alex was determined to go to Alaska and wouldn’t stop at any cost. He lived on the streets and suffered extreme heats, his travels take him all across the country in his voyage to Alaska because Alex in a sense searches nature for the answers to life and prepares him self before he makes the ultimate journey to Alaska to find the truest answer to life in this arctic wasteland.

Curtis Seay

12/16/2010 01:08:10 am

Question 3 reply to Michael

I agree that Alex keeps true to his words by not succeeding in the spoils of sexual pleasures and that when working with machinery he wanted to do things his way. This was how Alex was he was a leader and he would find the answers him self even if he did things wrong constantly no matter what happened. Alex loved nature and trusted it with his answers to life questions.

Shane

12/16/2010 02:58:44 am

Question 1

I believe Chris changed his name to Alex to disappear from his past life. It was like he wanted his entire life to start over. He didn't want anyone from his past to be able to track him down, and he figured that if he went by a different name then he wouldn't leave evidence of his presence behind. Transcendentalism plays a role in these decisions because Chris feels that he doesn't need anyone to help him live his life. He feels that he can do it by himself, and that he can escape society through creating a new identity for himself.

Shane

12/16/2010 03:23:25 am

Question 2

When Alex's car broke down, he decided to continue on by foot. He could have told park rangers about it in order to try to fix the car, but he would have ran into trouble that way. By deciding to continue on by foot he found the meaning of persistence. "He could simply abandon the Datsun and resume his odyssey on foot. And that's what he decided to do." He felt that he had to go on this journey, and he was not going to let this event stop him.

Shane

12/16/2010 03:45:45 am

Question 3

"Once Alex made up his mind about something, there was no changing it." This shows how people felt Chris acted when they tried to help him out. Many people tried to persuade Chris out of making certain choices to keep him out of danger, but if he wanted to do something then he did it. I believe he lived by this quote because he did not let others make his decisions for him.
"He acted like it was hard for him to be around people. I just figured that was because he'd spent so much time by himself." I don't really think Chris lived like this. He always seemed to get along with other people very well. I think he probably liked people, but he could only be around people for a little while because eventually they got on his nerves. For the most part I think he would rather be by himself, but sometimes he needed people to talk to.

Shane

12/16/2010 04:07:13 am

Response to Michael's question 1

Transcendentalism is shown through his name change because he goes out into nature to find out what he is in the world for. He feels he must avoid society and do things for himself, or else the journey he is on will mean nothing,. He also feels that name change will protect him from his past so that the people he has been around before will not be able to interrupt his trip.

Shane

12/16/2010 04:23:35 am

Response to Michael's question 2

Chris is in love with the experiences that he has been through, and he wants to keep experiencing more. He hates everything about the government, and when he gets in trouble with the police he gets a rush from it. He like the fact that he can get away with things that he is not supposed to do. He loves getting caught in puzzling predicaments. He gets put into unusual situations that would not be common in the regular world.

Shane

12/16/2010 04:35:35 am

Response to Michael's question 3

Chris feels nature is something that everyone should experience. He feels ecstatic when he is by himself in nature. He loves fending for himself and living off of the land. He feels that by being alone with his thoughts, that he will figure out what he is meant to do, or he will figure out what he wants to do in life. He wants to experience adventure, and he doesn't care if he will run into trouble on the way because he feels that it is necessary.

Michael Turnbill

12/16/2010 10:14:00 am

Reply to Curtis Question 1

I agree with what you said regarding Chris disowning his family name. He felt that he needed to spend time in Nature to see who he really was. His transcenditentalist beliefs were the major aspect in his trip as they feel all should spend time with nature to find them trueselves.

Michael Turnbill

12/16/2010 10:14:58 am

Reply to Shane Question 2

I agree with your example of Chris enjoying himslef to the fullest extent on the trip. In anyone elses mind in that situation they would call for help or something of that nature but Chris saw this as an adventure. Any road blocks he faced on his way he would never let
them stop him and just saw them as another part of the journey.

Michael Turnbill

12/16/2010 10:15:39 am

Reply to Brook Question 3

I agree with your quote relating to Alex's determination. The many times that people tried to get Alex to wait and think about it he would never listened. This went with his idealogy that he had been following that whatever you do that you never half do them and finish your task to the very end no matter how hard it is.

Jacob Gulledge

5/17/2011 08:16:29 am

question 1

I think that Chris changed his name to Alex because he wanted a fresh start. I think that he wanted to start a new life where no one new him and he could start it the way that he wanted to,and changing his identity was the only solution to that problem.I think he went to the wild to live his life the best way he thought to be possible.This reflects transcendentalism because he wanted to life how he wanted to and didn't care what other people thought.

Jacob Gulledge

5/17/2011 08:27:08 am

question 2

While Alex was traveling he come across a canoe and bought it and began his trip down the Colorado river and into the gulf of Mexico,he veared from his dream of going to Alaska for a little while to see the wide mountains and blue sky's when he arrives at the mexican boarder he puts in his jornal "Alex looks quickly around for signs of trouble. But his entry of Mexico is either unnoticed or ignored. Alexander is jubilant!" In this alex broke the law and went into the mexican boarder illegally, but he didn't care because he felt that it was something that he had to do in order to get is "adventure"

Jacob Gulledge

5/17/2011 08:34:12 am

question 3

Alex wanted to live his life on his own in the wild and didn't want to have to count on others he knows that there is a chance he wont leave Alaska so he writes letters to his friends explainting that they will never see him agian.He did this because he fears that they will try to talk him out of it. He made it to Alaska and this is where his journal starts.

Ashley Thalasinos

5/17/2011 11:15:50 am

Question 1,
I think that Chris changed his name to Alex to escape from his past life. He didnt want anyone to find him when he went on his journey. I think he went into the wild to also escape his lifestyle and start over the best way he knew how to. This reflects transcendetlism becuase he lived life alone the way he wanted and nobody told him otherwise.

Ashley Thalasinos

5/17/2011 11:23:16 am

Question 2,

I think that Alex was determined to go to Alaska and would have done anything to get there. He lived out of his car, in deserted areas, and rode with stragners just for a ride after his car broke down. He could have called for help after his car was flooded out but decided to leave it in fear of getting caught and continued on foot. No matter what his obstacle was, he faced it and kept on with his journey.

Ashley Thalasinos

5/17/2011 12:06:16 pm

Question 3,
Alex didn't want to count on others to get hi through in the wild. He thought taking a plane would defeat the purpose of traveling into the wild so he turned it down. Westerberg said "Once Alex made up his mind about something, there was no changing it." This quote shows he was determined and would not let anyone talk him out of what he wanted to do.

Brandie Owen

5/21/2011 05:21:58 am

Question One---

I believe that Alex changed his name to Chris during his time of traveling because he wanted a fresh new start that doesn’t involve the people he has been around his whole life. By changing his name, Alex made it to where his family member and friends could not find out the place that he was or his overall destination. With his new identity, Alex could completely strip away his past of being someone completely consumed with society. On page 18, it is said that “McCandless felt estranged from his parents and his siblings,”. By going out into the wilderness without any contact information, Alex was being self-reliant. Transcendentalists believed in being self-reliant and not depending on others for happiness or help in his journey. Chris even sold all of his belongings and gave away thousands of dollars to multiple charities. Chris was looking for an adventure. “he intended to invent an utterly new life for himself.” (pg 23-24).

Brandie Owen

5/21/2011 05:48:27 am

Question Two---

All throughout chapter four, there were many experiences in which Alex found supplied a satisfaction he had never supplied to his soul. One particular experience that was noted in ‘Into the Wild’ was when Alex McCandless experienced a flashflood that took the very few belongings he had with it. Even though this would be considered a disastrous experience for many, Alex looked at it as a good thing. “He saw the flashflood as an opportunity to shed unnecessary baggage” (pg 29). This is another example of how transcendentalism played a role in Alex McCandless’ life because he did not need to depend on objects to make him happy.

Brandie Owen

5/21/2011 06:04:54 am

Question Three---

Even though Alex McCandless says that “flying would be cheating. It would wreck the whole trip” (pg 67), I do not believe that he actually lives by his own words. There have been other instances within this chapter where McCandless depended on other people for help of some sort. For example, on page 67, Alex McCandless took Wayne’s mother up on her offer of him going to their house for supper. By eating supper that he did not ix and prepare his self, he is depending on others for is needs which he has said he doesn’t want to do. Another example of how McCandless doesn’t live by his own words is when he takes agreed to be drove to Interstate 94 by a friend of Wayne’s (pg 68). If Alex was serious about when he said that taking other transportation such as flying would be “cheating”, then it wouldn’t have been okay with him to be drove somewhere.

Brandie Owen

5/21/2011 06:09:56 am

Response to Jacob Gulledge question one---

I completely agree that the reason Chris changed his name to Alex is because he wanted a fresh start. “Alex” wanted a life separate from the life he once had with his parents. I also believe that another reason why he changed his name is so the people that were once in his life such as his family and friends could not find him and tell him not to travel like he was. I like how you said that one of the reasons he went out into the wild the way he did was because he was carefree as to what others thought. This is another example of transcendentalism-- being carefree.

Brandie Owen

5/21/2011 06:16:45 am

Response to Ashley Thalasinos question two---

I agree with your example of an experience that Chris gained meaning from. However, I do not see where you stated what meaning Chris learned behind that experience. In my own respond, I did indeed use the experience of the flashflood and how it took most of belongings. A meaning that I believe Chris gained from this fell into the laws of transcendentalism. Transcendentalists did not feel like they had to depend on the objects in this world to feel completely satisfied. So when Chris lost his material possessions to the flashflood, he clearly stated that this was a good thing because he lost “unnecessary baggage” (pg 29 ).

Brandie Owen

5/21/2011 06:25:28 am

Response to Jacob Gulledge question three---

I like how you pointed out a law of transcendentalism in your response. By not wanting to count on others, he fulfills the law of transcendentalism because he is becoming more self-reliant. I believe that by going to Alaska, Chris has found the true experiences that satisfy his soul. This is more than likely the reason he decides he does not want to leave. He also acts carefree when it comes to never seeing certain people again. This is another law of transcendentalism in which he has fulfilled.

Lindsay Whitaker

5/22/2011 01:21:47 am

question 1:

I believe that Chris changed his name to Alex so that he could change his identity and get rid of everything in his past that went wrong when he was Chris. With his new identity, he is hoping that nobody from his past life would figure out where he was. This goes along with Transcendentalism because he is changing his name because that's what he wants to do.

Lindsay Whitaker

5/22/2011 01:28:48 am

question 2:

Alex was very determined to get to Alaska. He would have done anything to get there, which shows a little bit about his character. When he wants something, he doesn't give up on it! "He could simply abandon the Datsun and resume his odyssey on foot. And that's what he decided to do." This quote really shows his determination and self-belief.

Ashley Thalasinos

5/22/2011 07:25:04 am

REply to Lindsay question 1,
I agree with you that he changed his name to Alex so he could get rid of his part identity and start a new life. He didn't want people to know who he was and they might have if he would have went by his real name. It does follow transcendalism because it his choice to change his name and that is the beggining signs that he does not like to be told what to do.

Ashley Thalasinos

5/22/2011 07:27:18 am

Reply to Jacob question 3,
I agree with you that Alex did not want to count on others to get him to where he wished to go. He thought that took away the purpose of his adventure. He did write journals to them though so he did keep in contact.

Ashley Thalasinos

5/22/2011 07:30:52 am

Reply to Lindsay question 2,
I agree with you that Alex's determination showed a lot about his character. He was not letting anything or anyone stop him from going to Alaska.

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 08:42:24 am

Question 1--
I think Chris changed his named to Alex for a number of reasons. He first of all didn't like his family very much, and was wanting to venture out on his own. He had a mind to himself and wanted to live a very different lifestyle. By changing his name he is creating a new person for himself. Giving him room to be anyone he wants to be. By making himself Alex, instead of Chris it gives him room to make new decisions and make a new lifestyle for himself. Through Alex's name change his is putting his old life, ways, and status behind him and now can only rely on himself, which is one value of transcendentalism. Changing your name gives you a complete new identity that you must recreate for yourself.

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 08:55:14 am

Reply to Ashley-- Question 1
I like how you put he wanted to "escape" his old lifestyle. In all actuality that is exactly what he wanted to do. By saying escaping it puts it in a way that he was trying to get away from something he didn't like, which considering he didn't like his parents very much, or his old life; that is what he was trying to do!

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 09:44:05 am

Question 2--
In chapter four Alex has to deal with a lot of new things coming his way. His trusty car, the Datsun breaks down and he has to decide whether he is going to get it fixed or continue his trip without a car, on foot. Alex chooses to embrace this instead of harp on it. On page 29 it says, " But there was a way to avoid such aggravation; He could simply abandon the Datsun and resume his odyssey on foot. And that's what he decided to do." Alex used this moment as a step in his journey, not a road block. It also says on the same page, " Instead of feeling distraught over this turn of events, moreover, McCandless was exhilarated; He saw the flash flood as an opportunity to shed unnecessary baggage."

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 09:47:26 am

Reply to Brandie-- Question 2
The way you incorporated the transcendentalism aspect in on this question was really good. I used the same quote about" shedding the unnecessary baggage" and I didn't think about it in the transcendentalist way until I saw your post. It really does show that he didn't have to depend on objects to continue on in his journey to a new, carefree life

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 09:50:55 am

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 10:03:31 am

Question 3--
In Alex's quote about flying being cheating and that it would ruin the trip I believe he truly means that. He wants to experience getting their on his own, and enjoy his trip there. However, I don't believe that he lives by his words in this statement. He has relied on people through out the story so far to get his where he is now and if he thought that a plane ticket was cheating, then any help from someone would be cheating his experience. In chapter seven Alex decides to work at a machinery company to gain some extra money for the trip. He did jobs that no one else wanted to get money for what he needed to journey to Alaska. On page 62 it says, " McCandless worked hard, doing dirty, tedious jobs that nobody else wanted to tackle; mucking out warehouses, exterminating vermin, painting, scything weeds. If he needed stuff for his journey he should have planned ahead for it, and not had to get a job to get money for it. Throughout the book McCandless relies on people to drive him places and give him food. He in this chapter ate dinner with Gail Borah most nights, therefore, meaning he didn't prepare his own dinner. On page 63 Borah says, " I had Alex over to the house for supper just about every night. He was a big eater. Never left any food on his plate."

Ragan Moore

5/22/2011 10:08:47 am

Reply to Lindsay-- Question 2
I like how you said abandoning his car shows determination because it definitely does. I know I would never put myself in a situation like McCandless did to begin with, but if I was I know I wouldn't have the determination to continue like he did!

Lindsay Whitaker

5/22/2011 12:47:33 pm

reply to brandie (question 1):

I totally agree with you when you say that the name change was a way to have a fresh new start. I love when you said "With his new identity, Alex could completely strip away his past of being someone completely consumed with society". By changing his name to Alex, he had the opportunity to get away from his past and change his future.

Lindsay Whitaker

5/22/2011 12:50:36 pm

reply to ashley (question 2):

I like how you stated that no matter what happened along the way, nothing was too much to keep Alex from continuing on with his journey. This truly shows how determined he is. It shows how strong he is, and it shows that he can make it through anything with self-reliance.

Lindsay Whitaker

5/22/2011 12:55:48 pm

reply to ragan (question 3):

I agree when went into detail about how McCandless relies on other people to do things for him. He expects them to drive him around and get him food. I completely agree with you when you said that "If he needed stuff for his journey he should have planned ahead for it, and not had to get a job to get money for it". He works hard when he needs to get things done, but sometimes he just likes to have things handed to him.

annonymous

5/23/2011 03:00:57 am

today i don't feel like doing annyythinng..i just wanna lay in my bed. don't feel like pickin up the phone, so leave a message at the tone,, cuz today i don't feel like doing anyything..nothin at all!! :)

Justin Ivey

5/24/2011 06:05:44 am

#1
i believe that he changed his name so that it would be harder for people to find him once he was gone. I believe he did this so he could just live out in nature without having to worry about people all around him.

Justin

5/24/2011 06:07:23 am

#1
I believe that the experience that Chris had was the experience of realizing that life is all about nature for him. I believe he realizes that life is not about the great things you do or the people you meet but the way you live it.

Justin

5/24/2011 06:07:47 am

^ i meant #2

Justin

5/24/2011 06:21:28 am

In the part of chapter four where Chris says thanks to the people for giving him money; he is showing that he used money to find food so he is not living off of the land like his values say that he should.

Justin

5/24/2011 06:26:07 am

reply to Gulledge question 1:
i agree with Gulledge i believe that he changed his name so he could get a fresh start and no one would know it was him

Justin

5/24/2011 06:29:35 am

reply to Gulledge question 2:
I agree that he got out of his pathway on the river with the canoe but he was still connected to nature and he wasn't flying.

Justin

5/24/2011 06:32:32 am

reply to Gulledge asnwer question 3
i believe that Chris' trip on the canoe was a way of cheating even though he was still connected to nature

travis jenkins

5/25/2011 03:05:00 am

question 1

Chris changed his name to Alex because he wanted to start fresh and have a brand new experience in life. he hopes to start a new life that leaves everything from his past life behind. This is close to transcendentalism because they lived off of the land.

travis jenkins

5/26/2011 12:27:45 pm

question 2
Alex experienced many adventures on the road while traveling. He wanted to live like this because he believed that life was short and he should live it to the fullest.

travis jenkins

5/27/2011 02:41:08 am

question three
Chris is very independent and when he gets an idea in his head there is no getting it out. He wants to do things his own way and wants to do it by himself. That is why he did not accept the plane ticket because he wants to have an adventure and flying would ruin the whole thing.

travis jenkins

5/27/2011 02:55:33 am

reply to Ashley Thalasinos question one
I agree that Chris changed his name to get a fresh start on life. He did not want people knowing his real name so he wouldn't have to deal with parents because he did not want anything to do with them anymore.

travis jenkins

5/27/2011 03:02:44 am

reply to ragan question two
I agree that Chris experienced many roadblocks on his adventure. For example, his Datson he drove for a long time broke down in the desert and he tried to figure out a place to take it to get it fixed but his tags were dead and his license expired a long time ago. So, he just leaves his car in the desert and continues his journey on foot. Also, he does not complain like most people, he looks at the positives.

travis jenkins

5/27/2011 03:07:15 am

reply to ragan question three
I agree that Chris did technically cheat on his experience. If he thinks that getting a plane ticket from somebody is cheating then he has cheated this whole time. He is all the time getting a ride from many people and eating at people's houses. On page 63 Borah says, " I had Alex over to the house for supper just about every night. He was a big eater. Never left any food on his plate."

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