GROUP THREE--CHAPTERS 12-20

10/29/2010

1. Huck’s journey on the river is filled with adventures, but it is also a symbolic journey. What does his journey symbolize? How does his relationship with Jim tie in to the symbolism? Compare the symbolism of the shore to that of the river. Use examples from the novel and page numbers to support your view.

2. What does Huck do at the end of chapter 15 that was surprising in the historical and social context of the book? Why is this a turning point for Huck and Jim's friendship? What do you think Twain is suggesting through this example?

3. Contrast Jim's and Huck's reactions to the king and the duke. Use specific examples as evidence.

38 Comments

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 04:46:25 am

Question 1--
I think the river symbolizes freedom, not only for Huck but for Jim as well. The river is where Huck relates and talks to Jim. He protects Jim like a loved one. Huck treats Jim as a person, instead of a slave. The river also could stand for growing up. As the friends float down the river, they are growing up in the process, more Huck than Jim. In the beginning chapters of the book Huck was an ignorant little boy. However, through the spand of the book he has grown up into a brave, loyal young man. He treats everyone as a fair human. Although he may lie he is doing it for the safety of another human. Both of the different types of symbolism tie into the relationship of Huck and Jim. Along the way the two have grown up and learned to rely on the other. They have used the river as a way of getting the freedom that they both desire. Traveling down the Mississippi River the two have had to stop along the way and take refuge on the shore. To me the shore is a place of refuge to the men. The river is ever flowing and is constantly changing, just like their circumstances. However, the shore is always their for safety when they need a break from the flow of the river. Huck seems to think the river is the calmest place, but to me it seems to be the place where all the trouble comes along.

Ashley Thalasinos

4/4/2011 05:55:46 am

Question 1,
Huck's adventures on the river symbolize his maturity. He sees the better things in life by these journeys and takes care of himself as well as look out for Jim. It symbolizes his friendship with Jim because he lies to people about hiding a slave and had many money rewards but never took them because he could not do that to Jim. Through these chapters you see this stuff a lot. The river symbolizes the freedom that they are trying to reach but it also brings all the trouble along the way.

Ashley Thalasinos

4/4/2011 05:57:40 am

Reply to Ragan, question 1
I agree with you that the river symbolizes freedom but brings hardships for them. They are indeed growing up along the journeys on that river and friendship is growing between the two as well. Huck protects Jim like a true friend would and looks past the fact that the boys aren't the same color.

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 06:11:18 am

Question 2--
At the end of Chapter 15 Huck apologizes to Jim. Before this Huck had played a trick on Jim by saying that the story Jim told him was all a dream. Jim talked about the fog that they went through the night before and how they had become separated, and that Jim thought Huck had died. All this stuff really did happen; Huck just was playing a trick on Jim. Jim became very frustrated with Huck. When this happened Huck says that it took him 15 minutes to work up the courage to apologize. After wards he feels so much better, and doesn't regret the decision he made to say he was sorry to Jim. When this happens it shows that Huck humbled himself to Jim and said sorry. Huck didn't look at Jim as less than human. He treated him like any other white man and apologized. This is a big step in their relationship as being friends because Huck is treating him as an equal. This is a turning point because this would be an unheard of behavior in the regular society of this day and time. Blacks were less than a human, treated as property, and not a person. Twain is trying to show the reader that Huck is the exception from the normal society and is treating Jim with equality. This is a big step for a young man.

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 06:12:54 am

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 06:18:03 am

Reply to Ashley- Question 1
Ashley, I like how you said the river represents maturity. Huck is learning that through these experiences that a lesson is being taught through each of them. By the river he has learned to care for another individual and protect not only himself, but another person. Maturity is a key factor in the story itself. If Huck was an average little boy that was immature and rowdy some of the situations he has been in could have turned deadly. For example, when Huck was on the top of the tree watching the feud occur between the Shepardsons and the Grangerfords. If Huck would have been acting up and making noise he could have easily been shot. I think maturity is important for the two guys safety.

Jacob Gulledge

4/4/2011 06:18:37 am

question 1

I think that hucks adventures on the river symbolize how mature he is because he is still a young boy and he is out on the river catching his own food finding ways to make his own money and surviving without anyones help(aside jim), hucks relationship with Jim can tie to his maturity because he has come to over look the race and find jim to be a true friend and that will help each other over the journey their taking

Jacob Gulledge

4/4/2011 06:24:34 am

question 2

Huck lies to Jim to make him less worried about the separation of the two by saying it was a dream but later on he told jim the truth that they actually got separated and he said the truth so that they could continue to be friends even though huck lied to jim, i think that its a turning point because it shows how true friends might get mad at each other but they can always work things out.I think that mark twain is trying to express how a white man can become friends with a black slave through all that has happened

Jacob Gulledge

4/4/2011 06:28:08 am

question 3

huck see's that the duke and king are fake and that they are playing a trick on them because a king and duke would not travel on a boat but jim on the other hand has never seen someone who looked as they did so believed them because he was blinded by their appearance

Jacob Gulledge

4/4/2011 06:34:32 am

Reply to Reagan question 1

I agree with you that the river symbolizes freedom and that they have grown up throughout the book however i believe that the river can also stand for friendship because it might be hard but jim and huck are still becoming friends along the way and there making each other a better person

Jacob Gulledge

4/4/2011 06:37:21 am

I agree with you that the river symbolizes maturity and their friendship is growing along the way because they have learned to survive with each other and they are also learning from each other every step of the way

Jacob Gulledge

4/4/2011 06:43:58 am

reply to Regan question 2 ^^^^^^^^ reply to Ashley question 1

I agree with you on the second part of question 2 because it is a really big step not only for jim but for huck as well because huck is not used to treating a slave as an equal to him this also shows hucks maturity as an adult by being able to look at jim as an equal in stead of "lesser" than himself.

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 07:33:26 am

Question 3--
In chapter 19 Huck and Jim are introduced to two new men. They call themselves a king, and a duke. The two men expect to be treated as royalty. Huck sees right through the two of them. He sees that they are just making up their titles. Huck decides not to say anything or bring up the fact that they are fakes. Huck decides it would be best if he didn't, therefore, no quarrels or issues arise. Huck also says that his pap taught him that the best way to get along with another person is to just agree with them. Jim is different. He believes in the two men and doesn't know the difference. He is just listening to the white men, like he has his whole life.

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 08:08:28 am

Reply to Jacob- Question 2
According to the turning point, I agree with how you said it makes them think about being friends. You said that it shows that real friends can work anything out. This statement relates to so many people today, and how frustration and playing jokes on people can cause an argument. By Huck apologizing to Jim about the trick he played on him it shows he was being humble. If Huck wouldn't have said he was sorry it would have affected the rest of the book because the two wouldn't be friends. Good outlook on the turning point Jacob!

Lindsay Whitaker

4/4/2011 08:29:45 am

Question 1:

I believe that the river symbolizes life and adventure. Huck's relationship with Jim ties in with the symbolization of the river because they are on this adventure together and they play huge parts in each others lives! I believe that the river is a symbol of life and the shore symbolizes the places they stopped and the memories they made along the way!

Lindsay Whitaker

4/4/2011 08:38:17 am

Question 2:

At the end of chapter 15, Huck apologizes to Jim for lying to him. This is a turning point in Huck and Jim's friendship because this is where Huck really starts to realize that color isn't an issue and that he would like Jim no matter what color his skin was. I believe that in this example, Twain is making it evident that black people are just like white people. I think he is trying to prove that it doesn't matter what color you are as long as you are a good person.

Brandie Owen

4/4/2011 08:39:29 am

Question One---
Throughout Huckleberry Finn, Huck and Jim come across more adventures than we do in our entire lifetime. Although many things take place to Huck and Jim while on the Mississippi River, certain changes have evolved in the characters personalities. I believe that the river Jim and Huck rides on symbolizes change. Rivers constantly move and change over the course of time, just like Huck and Jims personalities have. As Huck and Jim spend time together on the raft, they seem to learn not only about each other, but about life itself. Before their adventure on the Mississippi River, Huck was a very selfish little boy. He wasn’t very compassionate to the people around him and he didn’t care for much unless he gained something out of it. However, as his relationship with Jim grows, his attitude towards life and people grows as well. Huck begins to care for Jim as they journey together on the river. For example, when Huck knew that his raft was going to be searched, Huck puts together a story to tell the men that planned on searching the raft in order to save Jim (pg 72). Huck even apologies to Jim when he lies to him about being away, and says “It was fifteen minutes before I could work myself to go and humble myself to a nigger--, but I done it, and I wasn’t ever sorry for it either. I didn’t do him no more mean tricks, and I wouldn’t have done that one if I’d a known it would’ve made him feel that way.” (pg 69). Jim has been a huge reason why Hucks compassion and change has come about. The symbolism of change ties in to the shore and that of the river because as change is taking place on the Mississippi River, it is not taking place on the shore. As Huck begins to break away from societies views of slavery, the regular world (the shore) continues to be proslavery and has a lot of hate towards African Americans.

Lindsay Whitaker

4/4/2011 08:46:12 am

Question 3:

In chapter 19, Huck and Jim meet the "king" and the "duke". At first, they are interested in them and even feel pitty for them. Over time, Huck discovers that they are lying about being royalty, but Jim doesn't realize this. Huck knows that calling them out will just cause trouble, conflict, and possibly fighting, so he keeps it to himself. He decides that Jim does not need to know about the lie, so he keeps it from him.

Brandie Owen

4/4/2011 08:51:23 am

Question Two---

At the end of chapter 15, Huck “humbles” himself and apologizes to Jim for the trick that he had previously played on Jim. While Jim was asleep, the fog was so bad that it had separated the both of them. Huck eventually finds Jim, and Jim wakes to believe that Huck had died. Hucks tells Jim that they were never separated, even though they really were. When Huck tells Jim what actually happened, Jim becomes upset because Huck had played a trick on him. This is a turning point for Huck and Jim’s friendship because Huck is beginning to truly care for Jim. On page 69, Huck says “It was fifteen minutes before I could work myself to go and humble myself to a nigger--, but I done it, and I wasn’t ever sorry for it either. I didn’t do him no more mean tricks, and I wouldn’t have done that one if I’d a known it would’ve made him feel that way.” This shows the change in Hucks beliefs when it comes to the comparison of whites and blacks. Huck says that he humbled himself to Jim, which means that he put himself on the same level as Jim. Through this example Mark Twain is suggesting that no matter what the difference in two people is, no person is higher than the other and each person deserves to be treated with respect and love.

Lindsay Whitaker

4/4/2011 08:52:19 am

Reply to Ragan (question 1):

I completely agree with you when you say that the river symbolizies freedom for Huck and Jim. I agree with you because this is where the boys can have alone time and talk to one another without being judged due to the color of their skin. You are right when you say that the boys are growing up as they go down the river. As they continue through their adventure, they are maturing and gaining knowledge with the new things they come to contact with.

Lindsay Whitaker

4/4/2011 08:59:00 am

Reply to Brandie (question 2):

I like how you said that Huck "humbled" himself and apologized to Jim. This truly is the point where Huck realizes his true feelings for Jim. He begins to gather that he really does care about him and thinks of him as family. In this, we see that Huck and Jim are best friends; but they are actually more like brothers. They spend everyday together, but unlike brothers, they rarely fight! I love how you said that no person is higher than the other and you are correct, each person does deserve to be treated with respect and love! :)

Brandie Owen

4/4/2011 09:00:58 am

Question Three---

As Huck and Jim continue their expedition down the Mississippi River, the come along two men whom they have never seen before. These men claim that they are “Kings” and “Dukes”. They make up stories about why they no longer hold these positions in other countries, hoping that Huck and Jim will find their stories to be true. However, Huck Finn quickly figures out that the stories that the “King” and “Duke” are telling are in fact lies. Huck decides not to tell these men that he knows they are liars, and instead he keeps it to himself so there will be no “quarrels and trouble” (pg 99). Huck learned from his father that the best way to stay out of trouble is to just agree with people and let them have their way. Huck said that it was no use in telling Jim, therefore Jim continues to believe everything that the “King” and “Duke” says.

Lindsay Whitaker

4/4/2011 09:03:27 am

Reply to Jacob (question 3):

You made a good point when you said that Jim was blinded by the "king" and the "duke's" appearances. This really shows that he believed every word that they said. Jim saw the way they were dressed and the way they looked and believed them for those reasons. Although Jim didn't realize they were lying, Huck saw right through their fakeness!

Brandie Owen

4/4/2011 09:06:14 am

Reply to Jacob Gulledge Question One---

I can definitely see your point when you say that the river symbolizes Hucks maturity. Huck has had to grow up very fast to be such a young boy, especially since he went from being taken care of and treated very nicely at Miss Watson’s house to being out in the woods with no basic means of survival. I also like how you pointed out that the relationship between Huck and Jim has also helped Hucks maturity grow. I believe that true maturity is best achieved when you can set aside differences in a person and look past them. Huck is beginning to do that as he humbles himself more to Jim and begins to look at them as equals.

Ragan Moore

4/4/2011 09:15:09 am

Reply to Brandie- Question 2
I love your explanation of how Huck puts himself at the same level as Jim. Huck humbles himself to be at the SAME level as Jim. Back in those days that would be unheard of. Lowering yourself to that of a colored man, you would be looked at as if you walked on four legs. It was crazy to think about. I think Twain has the main character be a child as well for a purpose. By Huck being a young boy, learning as he grows, he is impacted on by the people he sees and the actions they take. However, sometimes a child understands a concept better than adults can. An adult in these times wouldn't dare lower themselves and apologize to a colored man. Huck is setting an example for all that follow him because he made a difference and said he was sorry.

Ashley Thalasinos

4/4/2011 09:56:56 am

Question 2,
In chapter 15 Huck decides to tell Jim that he lied to him about being lost. This is a shock because in those days white people did not care if they lied to a black man. This shows how much Huck cares for Jim and their close friendship. Huck is seeing more in Jim than him being a black slave. Twian is trying to show that blacks were only based on their color and not what kind of person they are, but it is important to look beyond the race.

Ashley Thalasinos

4/4/2011 10:00:20 am

Question 3,
At first the boys are interested in the Duke and the King. They believe their stories and want to hear all about it. But soon Huck sees that these guys are lying to them. Jim however does not see the lies. Huck decides not to confront them though in fear of conflict and fighting so he keeps it to himself.

Ashley Thalasinos

4/4/2011 10:02:36 am

Reply to Lindsay, Question 2
I agree with you that this is the turning point of their friendship. Huck sees that color is not the important thing about a person and that Jim is just like him in most ways.

Ashley Thalasinos

4/4/2011 10:07:12 am

Reply to Jacob, question 1
I agree with you that the river symbolizes maturity.Huck is independent at a very young age and had to grow up because it was his only option in order to surive. All he has in Jim and the two have became close and have grown a friendship. They look out for one another every step of the way. If Huck wasen't as mature as he has become then these adventures could have been deadly.

Brandie Owen

4/4/2011 10:35:25 am

Reply to Ragan Moore Question Two---

I love the way you said that Mark Twain is trying to show the reader that Huck is the exception to the normal society by treating Jim with equality. Twain really puts an emphasis on this passage and shows us how Hucks views of Jim begins to change. I believe that Twain uses this to show the impact that if you set your personal opinions aside of someone and actually take time to get to know them, you might actually find that that they can become someone you really like. I love how Huck and Jim are forming a friendship. It’s nice to see how Huck is changing from immature and judgmental into a mature and more compassionate human being.

Brandie Owen

4/4/2011 10:43:04 am

Reply to Lindsay Whitaker Question Three---

I love how you picked up on the fact that Huck felt pity for the two men that Jim and himself came across. I didn’t take into consideration that fact that Huck felt compassion for them. This also shows us how Huck is beginning to change into a more caring young boy. I believe that what he learned from his dad (“The best way to get along with people is to let them have their way.” pg 99) is a very smart thing to follow. The fact that Huck does not want to cause problems shows a very positive thing about his character.

travis jenkins

4/9/2011 03:19:00 pm

question 2
At the end of chapter 15 Huck apologizes to Jim for playing a trick on him. Earlier Huck and Jim got seperated and the fog was very dense. Whenever Huck found Jim he was asleep. So Huck told Jim thaty they were never seperated when Jim thought that Huck died. Whenever Huck apologizes to Jim he does not feel bad about it.. This is the turning point of their friendship because huck starts to care more for Jim.

travis jenkins

4/9/2011 03:33:04 pm

question 3
When Huck and Jim meet two men they say that they were men that had their natural birth rights tooken from them and they say they are actually a king and duke. Huck sees right through these men but decides to not say anything about it. Jim however does not see through their lies and actually believes them and treats them like loyalty.

Justin

4/10/2011 12:45:33 pm

Question 2
Huck Does not turn Jim into the authorities because he feels like it would be wrong. This is a big turning point in Jim and Huck's friendship because Huck is finally accepting that Jim is just like everyone else and that he is willing to accept Jim.

Justin

4/10/2011 12:46:42 pm

Question 3
Jim says that he thinks the king is no good and a conman. Huck explains to Jim that just about all kings are like that and they both agree that they can only stand one king. They both believe that the Duke is a good person though.

Justin

4/10/2011 12:48:05 pm

Jim thinks that the king is a bad person and a conman. Huck explains to Jim that most kings are like that. Both Jim and Huck agree that they can only stand to have one king around. They both agree that the duke is a good person.

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